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hunter Full Member I have made 75 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 21 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 2, 2019 19:43:56 GMT Post by hunter on Apr 2, 2019 19:43:56 GMT Dammit man, I love instrumentals as much as the songs basically. I want Everyday Thang so fuckin bad
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ak God I have made 400 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined February 2018 I've received 141 likes	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 3, 2019 20:37:08 GMT via mobile Post by ak on Apr 3, 2019 20:37:08 GMT Apr 2, 2019 19:43:56 GMT hunter said: Dammit man, I love instrumentals as much as the songs basically. I want Everyday Thang so fuckin bad We need to figure out how to contact Uneek. Last we heard he was in the hpspital or some shit Krayzie said but we never got an update. Im not big on social media but i’ve hit him up on facebook a few times and never got a response
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hunter Full Member I have made 75 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 21 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 4, 2019 15:20:46 GMT Post by hunter on Apr 4, 2019 15:20:46 GMT Apr 3, 2019 20:37:08 GMT ak said: Apr 2, 2019 19:43:56 GMT hunter said: Dammit man, I love instrumentals as much as the songs basically. I want Everyday Thang so fuckin bad We need to figure out how to contact Uneek. Last we heard he was in the hpspital or some shit Krayzie said but we never got an update. Im not big on social media but i’ve hit him up on facebook a few times and never got a response Ya I would definitely reach out to him if I knew how, he’s got a ton of shit I’d love to have
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hunter Full Member I have made 75 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 21 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 5, 2019 18:12:15 GMT Post by hunter on Apr 5, 2019 18:12:15 GMT I hope if they do come out he does like volume 1 with full instrumentals
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ak God I have made 400 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined February 2018 I've received 141 likes	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 5, 2019 20:11:59 GMT via mobile Post by ak on Apr 5, 2019 20:11:59 GMT ^^yea I always thought it was wierd how some of them get cut short on the first 2 volumes...or maybe it was just the second? But also why on the forst one were they all changed up with different sounds? Hopefully either someone will get in contact with him or maybe he’ll be a gues on Beyond The Harmony....I have TONS of questions for Uneek.
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hunter Full Member I have made 75 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 21 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 7, 2019 15:04:20 GMT Post by hunter on Apr 7, 2019 15:04:20 GMT Apr 5, 2019 20:11:59 GMT ak said: ^^yea I always thought it was wierd how some of them get cut short on the first 2 volumes...or maybe it was just the second? But also why on the forst one were they all changed up with different sounds? Hopefully either someone will get in contact with him or maybe he’ll be a gues on Beyond The Harmony....I have TONS of questions for Uneek. Ya that’s another thing is the alterations to the beats...I can’t even listen to First Of The Momth bc of that banjo sound lol. There’s always a catch with Bone material, either it’s altered or takes 12 years to drop. Just put the original music out before I’m 80 lol. I really wanna reach Eric Nordquist also, he’s another 1 that has went under the radar & nobody has interviewed or even contacted as far as I know & I believe him to have Heavenz Movie & TM99 material as well as others like AOW cut WW3
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hunter Full Member I have made 75 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 21 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 7, 2019 15:14:11 GMT Post by hunter on Apr 7, 2019 15:14:11 GMT & also even on Vol 1 some of those beats were not the entire track, the original instrumental to Change The World is on there & I thought it was full length until I got a Change The World promo cd that has the Acapella & instrumental...the original instrumental & it is longer than the instrumental on Vol 1. Id have to compare some others on vol 1 to the songs themselves or like with E1999 instrumental that was released as Thuggish Ruggish Bone remix instrumental on the Foe The Love Of $ cd promo I believe with it having the hook in it so idk if that’s comparable to E99 since the lengths of E99 & Thuggish Ruggish Bone Remix would most likely be different lengths anyway due to them being totally different tracks & lengths vocally. Shit is crazy man...there’s a lot of info out there & interviews but I want some interviews of nothing but questions like this & strictly about the music & certain tracks, releases, time period, process, reasons of never being released or what project it was intended for originally, are there multiple versions or instrumentals to this song, etc...fully in depth about certain tracks.
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bobface Junior Member I have made 37 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 11 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 8, 2019 18:03:44 GMT Post by bobface on Apr 8, 2019 18:03:44 GMT A lot of the differences between the final track and the versions on Bone Instrumentals has to do with rights. Ruthless will own the final mastering version used in the song, which is why it would be on the CD sometimes when you bought the single and it had acapella versions etc. The versions U-Neek put out are HIS original versions that aren't the same as the ones Ruthless would end up owning at the end of the day. Notice there's no Ruthless logo on those Vol 1 and 2 releases. Those are versions OWNED by U-Neek that he released on his own (with Bone Thugs Records). He doesn't have the rights to release the final product version you're looking for. And we know Ruthless wasn't ever getting their shit together to release old material or re-release anything of merit. This isn't an excuse for why there's no Volume 3, but points to why there's different versions of instrumentals floating around. Same reason why some of these alternate verses and takes have made their way out, U-Neek or the engineer or the recording studio OWNS those versions because they were never officially released by Ruthless (as long as the studio time was paid for outside of Ruthless, like U-Neek investing in the album himself and then trying to sell it to a label afterwards) (though you don't want to poke the beast too hard releasing very similar versions of songs, could lead to lawsuits). Remember how Uni5 was messed with by Warner according to U-Neek? He should still own those original beats and recordings (look up the Rebirth original or alternate version).
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ak God I have made 400 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined February 2018 I've received 141 likes	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 9, 2019 16:09:24 GMT via mobile Post by ak on Apr 9, 2019 16:09:24 GMT Apr 8, 2019 18:03:44 GMT bobface said: A lot of the differences between the final track and the versions on Bone Instrumentals has to do with rights. Ruthless will own the final mastering version used in the song, which is why it would be on the CD sometimes when you bought the single and it had acapella versions etc. The versions U-Neek put out are HIS original versions that aren't the same as the ones Ruthless would end up owning at the end of the day. Notice there's no Ruthless logo on those Vol 1 and 2 releases. Those are versions OWNED by U-Neek that he released on his own (with Bone Thugs Records). He doesn't have the rights to release the final product version you're looking for. And we know Ruthless wasn't ever getting their shit together to release old material or re-release anything of merit. This isn't an excuse for why there's no Volume 3, but points to why there's different versions of instrumentals floating around. Same reason why some of these alternate verses and takes have made their way out, U-Neek or the engineer or the recording studio OWNS those versions because they were never officially released by Ruthless (as long as the studio time was paid for outside of Ruthless, like U-Neek investing in the album himself and then trying to sell it to a label afterwards) (though you don't want to poke the beast too hard releasing very similar versions of songs, could lead to lawsuits). Remember how Uni5 was messed with by Warner according to U-Neek? He should still own those original beats and recordings (look up the Rebirth original or alternate version). But the instrumentals on volume one are actually the same exact instrumentals, just with a few added things. If it were a right issue, he would still get sued bro. I cant go and take a copywritten beat, add a few of my own sounds to it and sell it. So what ur saying doesnt make sense.
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bobface Junior Member I have made 37 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 11 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 9, 2019 17:26:45 GMT Post by bobface on Apr 9, 2019 17:26:45 GMT Apr 9, 2019 16:09:24 GMT ak said: Apr 8, 2019 18:03:44 GMT bobface said: But the instrumentals on volume one are actually the same exact instrumentals, just with a few added things. If it were a right issue, he would still get sued bro. I cant go and take a copywritten beat, add a few of my own sounds to it and sell it. So what ur saying doesnt make sense. The just a few added things are likely not added, but REMOVED from the final mix, meaning they were there when U-Neek presented them to Bone and did the recording. Then, during mixing/mastering, they didn't fit the song and were phased out. This is how someone like U-Neek can even release these things, he OWNS the original version he created and then is paid (licensed) by Ruthless to use it in a song (the final version), still retaining rights to his original versions he then sells on the side. Assuming there was nothing in a contract preventing him from doing what he wants with those beats since they're actually his, with Ruthless owning the modified versions (final album release version). Probably an oversight by Ruthless because it's not something that was done at the time (producer selling the beats themselves afterwards). It's amazing the land mines of corporate contracts and loopholes. Also a big difference in employee vs contractor. Was U-Neek just contracted to do these jobs or an employee of Ruthless? Probably contract based, hence why he owns stuff. A bigger question is why on the CD release there's 3 instrumentals in one track (E. 1999, Look Into My Eyes Atlantis Remix, and Down 71). Is that also a rights licensing issue or just bad job putting it together? I could be wrong, but based on experience and hearing about lots of disputes between record labels and artists/producers/engineers (like someone holding music hostage until payment even if it's not technically their's to hold but they have it), this seems the most likely reason for differences. And yeah, there's a whole section of YouTube where people recreate instrumentals almost exactly and get away with it (not selling them online, but making advertising revenue). So there's a lot of legal grey area.
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ak God I have made 400 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined February 2018 I've received 141 likes	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 9, 2019 18:14:31 GMT via mobile Post by ak on Apr 9, 2019 18:14:31 GMT Apr 9, 2019 17:26:45 GMT bobface said: Apr 9, 2019 16:09:24 GMT ak said: The just a few added things are likely not added, but REMOVED from the final mix, meaning they were there when U-Neek presented them to Bone and did the recording. Then, during mixing/mastering, they didn't fit the song and were phased out. This is how someone like U-Neek can even release these things, he OWNS the original version he created and then is paid (licensed) by Ruthless to use it in a song (the final version), still retaining rights to his original versions he then sells on the side. Assuming there was nothing in a contract preventing him from doing what he wants with those beats since they're actually his, with Ruthless owning the modified versions (final album release version). Probably an oversight by Ruthless because it's not something that was done at the time (producer selling the beats themselves afterwards). It's amazing the land mines of corporate contracts and loopholes. Also a big difference in employee vs contractor. Was U-Neek just contracted to do these jobs or an employee of Ruthless? Probably contract based, hence why he owns stuff. A bigger question is why on the CD release there's 3 instrumentals in one track (E. 1999, Look Into My Eyes Atlantis Remix, and Down 71). Is that also a rights licensing issue or just bad job putting it together? I could be wrong, but based on experience and hearing about lots of disputes between record labels and artists/producers/engineers (like someone holding music hostage until payment even if it's not technically their's to hold but they have it), this seems the most likely reason for differences. And yeah, there's a whole section of YouTube where people recreate instrumentals almost exactly and get away with it (not selling them online, but making advertising revenue). So there's a lot of legal grey area. Ok so then for the ones that havent been changed and are the exact same beat as whats on the albums, how does he get away with those then? Beats like Shotz 2 The Double Glocc, and Thug Luv just to name a few...or even better how about Thuggish Ruggish Bone (remix) and Mr Bill Collector (which still has the chorus on it!!). Wouldnt those be Ruthless property as well? Again, that makes no sense.
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bobface Junior Member I have made 37 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 11 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 10, 2019 23:00:21 GMT Post by bobface on Apr 10, 2019 23:00:21 GMT Who knows. It's not like Bone hasn't been caught up in all kinds of shady dealings by producers and what not cough Caz cough. Could be U-Neek could release ALL those instrumentals untouched or the album versions. Don't really know, just going off of what normally happens in music business (contract wise) and stories and interviews we've heard from members and U-Neek through many years (hearing pre-release stuff, seeing how the songs evolve from inception to release, verses being cut yet still existing and being released later in different songs or remixes).
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hunter Full Member I have made 75 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined November 2017 I've received 21 likes My gender is Male	Does anyone remember Bone Instrumentals 3? Apr 13, 2019 23:08:12 GMT Post by hunter on Apr 13, 2019 23:08:12 GMT At this point just give it away if nothing else, just put it up for download for free before you keep it to yourself. Aren’t they allowed to do that? Surely they’d at least want the die hards to appreciate their hard work before letting it sit & everyone passes away. That’d be more of a disservice to your hard work than giving it away for free if people can’t get on the same page. I don’t know the specifics but I wouldn’t think they’d catch much heat for selling 300 copies lol. Probably not even enough to raise awareness. I could be wrong, who knows. I do know I just want the music regardless paying for it or not
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